Comments for Big Brass Bull: Pentagon Deceit on Media Manipulation Confirmed at http://www.chris-floyd.com , comment 1 to 13 out of 13 comments http://www.chris-floyd.com Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:04:57 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-548 I must confess that I can't explain the loss of 2.3 TRILLION dollars from the Pentagon's budget accounting. ___________________ "We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service... ...Twenty years ago, Department of Defense Analyst Franklin C. Spinney made headlines exposing what he calls the "accounting games." He's still there, and although he does not speak for the Pentagon, he believes the problem has gotten worse. "Those numbers are pie in the sky. The books are cooked routinely year after year," he said. Another critic of Pentagon waste, Retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan, commanded the Navy's 2nd Fleet the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as Defense Secretary, in 1976. In his opinion, "With good financial oversight we could find $48 billion in loose change in that building, without having to hit the taxpayers." CBS Evening News, Jan. 29, 2002 - Yankee 30 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:10:54 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-547 Jimmy -- excellent! Blaqfather -- great to see you back here. - Sean O'Neil Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:30:14 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-544 PENTAGON COST OVER-RUN PROBLEM 2009 I must confess I am at a loss to explain the Giant Pentagon Deficit Reduction Plans, which are ill conceived in my opinion. In addition to the run-away budget problem, I had learned years ago, that several hundred thousand guns are “missing and unaccounted for” also. (Not to mention ammunition) This has left an obvious trail of un-accountability that shows very small signs of improvement. As of June 2009, the Pentagon and its agencies face a 2.5 billion dollar deficit coupled with a snow - ball effect of overspending that has left the GAO at a loss to explain how to deal with the problem. “ Pentagon planners don't do a good enough job of analyzing those requirements to understand whether they have the technologies and designs to build to them," GAO analyst Michael J. Sullivan said. "So they begin with an unrealistic baseline." Overall, the cost overruns associated with the military's major weapons systems have decreased slightly compared with a year ago, but they still total near [b]$300 billion,[/b] and the average program delay has stretched from 21 to 22 months, Gene L. Dodaro, acting comptroller general at the GAO, said in a report. Too often, the report said, development begins before the technologies needed to build the systems are mature and have been demonstrated to work, and before designs can meet cost and schedule requirements. All of these references have been D-Linked for accuracy. Just drag and drop them into your browser search window or type them in manually. All of these links start with ( http:// ) www.gao.gov/docsearch/locate?searched= 1&keyword=Defense appropriations www.armscontrolcenter.org/policy/securityspending/articles/fy09_dod_request/ news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html - Blaqfather-1403 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:10:02 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-518 I once spent three years studying stylometry. I read buckets full of journal articles with titles like "Hapax Legomena in Prescribed Positions." Occasionally, I wept. Had I done all that work only to find out, after I published, that I'd been scooped by 'Glamour' magazine, I probably would have killed myself. But I DO understand how, to some of us, a job at The National Review might seem a better alternative. - Jimmy Montague Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:49:01 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-517 I don't have time to excerpt this article right now or add comments but it will explain the matter sufficiently: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/15/iraq.usa2[/url] The truth about Jessica Her Iraqi guards had long fled, she was being well cared for - and doctors had already tried to free her. John Kampfner discovers the real story behind a modern American war myth John Kampfner The Guardian, Thursday 15 May 2003 08.27 BST - Aditya Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:55:56 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-515 I did a little research on the Rendon Group. Seems they go quite a way back,starting with Democratic administrations of the past. Very connected was the term I recall reading. Apparently so. Rendon is married to Sandra Libby,Scooter's sister. Her name is listed as a contact person for the firm. This firm has been paid millions upon millions of dollars over the years for plum contracts.[b][/b] - D R Alexander Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:42:03 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-514 Hey, is that Rich Lowry of the National Review? Three years studying one battle? Hahahahahahaha! But it's even funnier that everyone is arguing with him. The fact that all war is based on deception goes all the way back to Sun Tzu, and the whole officer corps thinks the American public, not the unvanquishable American military, lost the Vietnam war. But I guess since we suck in more military propaganda than oxygen in the U.S., I shouldn't be surprised that people still have to be convinced that the military would ever lie. But I am a little surprised that some dumbass like Rich Lowry or somebody using his name can start an argument at this site with a ridiculous comment like that. There are something like 1,200 media and public relations personnel stationed just at Fort Bragg. Is somebody seriously considering that they are all being truthful and objective? Even the host of this fine site seems to occionally accept unproven assumptions about how everythign actually works. Maybe, just maybe, President Obama accepted Secretary Gates sometime back before the election as a precondition to his getting support he needed to have any chance of being President, such as the support of Langley and the sponsorts of Langley, those banks that control the New York Fed. In that sense, the people who employ Secretary Gates also agreed to hire the "you say saintly" President Obama, subject to his references checking out and his judgment about staffing proving reliable. The hiring of a President is accomplished through control of the media, a large part of which is in Langley's pocket. And that's a lot more scandalous than the Pentagon influencing journalists. A hell of a lot more scandalous. But the post is good, as they usually seem to be here. I even like the snark. - Ovid Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:08:18 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-507 Dear Mr. Lowry, "...One of the main factors to consider in terms of how a society can be taken over by a group of pathological deviants is that the psychopaths' only limitation is the participation of susceptible individuals within that given society... ...The essential psychopath is at the center of the web. The others form the first tier of the psychopath's control system... ...The next tier of such a system is composed of individuals who were born normal, but are either already warped by long-term exposure to psychopathic material via familial or social influences, or who, through psychic weakness have chosen to meet the demands of psychopathy for their own selfish ends... ...When you understand the true nature of psychopathic influence, that it is conscienceless, emotionless, selfish, cold and calculating, and devoid of any moral or ethical standards, you are horrified, but at the same time everything suddenly begins to makes sense. Our society is ever more soulless because the people who lead it and who set the example are soulless - they literally have no conscience..." (from Word gets around: Twilight and the trick of the psychopaths, by Dr. Kevin Barrett and Silvia Cattori) Arthur Silber has much to say on this topic, too. Delve into his archives. - Yankee 30 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:43:28 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-506 Sorry. Too fast on the send button. Here's the link: [url]http://www.espritdecorps.ca/Ontarget 090506.htm[/url] ----- Completely off-topic but how is Arthur Silber? I first linked to his site from yours and was really sad to hear he was so sick. - C Quil Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:59:59 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-505 Control the message and you control the war. From Scott Taylor at Esprit de Corps (Canadian military magazine) Press Freedom Takes Hit with U.S. Troop Increase, May 6th, 2009 "Previously, Canadian journalists were issued with ISAF passes which allowed them unrestricted access inside the military base. The Americans, upon taking control of the airfield security in January of this year, altered this process, whereby journalists are now given only visitor passes instead of full accreditation. This meant that Canadian military officials had to escort these individuals everywhere they went during the day—from showers to the dining hall—and that they would be confined to their sleeping quarters at night." - C Quil Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:56:15 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-504 in her own words: "Nobody likes to believe our military would mislead people—but they wanted a war hero so badly that they portrayed me as one. They didn’t get their facts straight before talking about what happened, and neither did the media. They said I went down guns blazing, like Rambo—but I never fired a shot, because my rifle had jammed. They later corrected the story, but I’m still paying the price. People write to me and say, “You don’t deserve all the attention.” I’ve received thousands of letters and calls like that. People think I lied or helped create the Rambo myth—that I wanted it. But I’ve always told the truth. I could have chosen not to. It would have been so easy to say, “Yes, I did those things”— except I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself. Honesty has always been very important to me. And if there’s one thing I’ve learned over the past few years, it’s that this is my life and I have to stand up for myself." http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2007/06/jessica-lynch I'm sure Mr Floyd has some much better sources. military historian. an oxymoron like military intelligence. - BrotherRay in Canada Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:52:51 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-503 Please check your comment before you issue a comment containing such lies. Because really, after we finish alternating the vomit arising from disgust with the howls of laughter at your delusions, we are forced to consider your comment as nothing more than an ideologically motivated lie, or series of lies. How ironic that you would be accusing Mr Floyd of falsehoods. How ironic indeed. You should consider going into comedy, Mr Lowry. - Sean O'Neil Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:51:23 +0100 http://www.chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/1826-big-brass-bull-pentagon-deceit-on-media-manipulation-confirmed.html#comment-501 Sir, You stated, "...ardently peddling the Pentagon's knowingly false stories about the "heroic" rescue of Jessica Lynch." Please provide me with legitimate references that gives any truth to the statement above. I am an author and military historian. I spent three years studying the battle for Nasiriyah and I assure you that the Pentagon DID NOT 'knowingly pedal false stories' about Jessica Lynch's rescue. In fact, she was 80 lbs and near death when Navy SEALS carried her from the Saddam Hospital in downtown Nasiriyah. By the way, the Saddam Hospital was behind enemy lines in a city which produced the bloodiest day of fighting in the entire war. Her's was the first successful rescue of an American POW since WWII. I am certain you would have expected nothing less, if it had been your daughter. Please check your facts before you write such slander. I makes your entire article suspect. - Richard S. Lowry Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:09:06 +0100