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Brilliant Disguise: Bush Torture, Obama and The Boss
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Written by Chris Floyd   


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We offer now a telling juxtaposition of stories. First is the Guardian's new excerpt of Phillipe Sands' new book, Torture Team: Deception, Cruelty, and the Compromise of Law. (Another extract was published earlier in Vanity Fair, which we examined here.) Sands' book lays out in great detail the process by which the highest officials of the American government – including the President, Vice President and the Secretary of Defense – with great deliberation and malice aforethought constructed a regimen of systematic torture which they knew, to a certainty, violated existing American and international law.

The earlier Vanity Fair extract depicted how the "Principals" of the National Security State developed the specific tortures to be used on uncharged captives held indefinitely in concentration camps, secret prisons, and foreign torture chambers. The new Guardian extract show how the White House torture system was then put into practice and refined in the field.

These decisions and actions were flagrant and obvious violations of United States law. Sands quotes the ruling of the Republican-dominated Supreme Court ruled in 2006:

In June 2006, the Supreme Court overturned President Bush's decision on Geneva, ruling it to be unlawful. The court confirmed that Common Article 3 applied to all Guantánamo detainees. It was as simple as that. Whether they were Taliban or al-Qaida, every one of the detainees had rights under Common Article 3 - and that included Mohammed al-Qahtani.  

The majority opinion, reaffirming the "minimal protection" offered by Common Article 3, was written by Justice John Paul Stevens. One of the Justices went even further: Common Article 3 was part of the law of war and of a treaty that the US had ratified. "By Act of Congress," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote pointedly, "violations of Common Article 3 are considered 'war crimes', punishable as federal offences, when committed by or against United States nationals and military personnel."

First read the Guardian extract, and see how what happened in Abu Ghraib (and elsewhere) flowed directly – directly, and in detail – from Donald Rumsfeld's pen, with the approval and at the direction of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Then go to this video clip offered by the Philadelphia Daily News, and watch Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama field a direct question about how he will deal with these flagrant crimes (and others committed by the Bush White House) if he becomes president. Would he, Obama was asked, order his Justice Department "to aggressively investigate if crimes were committed?"

It goes without saying that Obama does not give a straightforward answer to the question. He does not simply say: "Yes. I will aggressively investigate all criminal activity by the Bush Administration and bring the perpetrators to justice." Instead, he twice offers a rather odd locution: he will, he says, order his attorney general to "review the information already there" and find out if there are inquiries that "need to be pursued." Obama's emphasis on basing his actions on "what we know right now" seems puzzling, until you tie it to a later passage in his reply, when he speaks of his attitude toward impeachment.

Obama says that any decision to pursue "investigation" of "possibilities" of "genuine crimes" would be "an area where I would exercise judgment." He stressed the need to draw a distinction between "really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity." He said he would not want "my first term to be consumed by what would be perceived by Republicans as a partisan witch hunt."

He then tied his thinking on torture, illegal wiretapping, aggressive war and all the other depredations of the Bush Regime to his stance on impeachment:

"I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings. And I've often said, I do not think that would be something that would be fruitful to pursue. I think impeachment should be reserved for exceptional circumstances."

In other words, very strong, credible, evidence-based charges of launching a criminal war of aggression based on deception is not an "exceptional circumstance" worthy of the investigative and prosecutorial process of impeachment. It might just be a "very dumb policy." Very strong, credible, evidence-based charges of knowingly, deliberately creating a regimen of systematic torture is not an "exceptional circumstance" worthy of impeachment; it might not even be worth further investigation by the Justice Department. It too could just be a "dumb policy" that we should forget about – especially if Republicans are going to make a fuss about it.

In any case, it is obvious that to Obama, "what we already know" does not constitute "exceptional circumstances" – otherwise he would already be pressing for criminal investigation, via the impeachment process or by calling for a special prosecutor. (Which would be essential for investigating a Justice Department which is itself deeply implicated in the torture system and other criminal conspiracies.) He has pointedly not done so, because he doesn't think it would be "fruitful to pursue" credible (in fact overwhelming) evidence of aggressive war and crimes against humanity committed by American leaders.

Obama closes on the usual high rhetorical note, declaring that if he in fact found out that "high officials knowingly, consciously broke existing laws and covered up crimes with knowledge aforethought...then no one is above the law."

Yet the plain fact is that the recent revelations by Sands and others that "high officials knowingly, consciously broke existing laws and covered up crimes with knowledge aforethought" are simply strong confirmations of what has been lying in plain sight for a long, long time.

For example, I began writing, in print, about the Administration's use of "extrajudicial killing," torture and other Terror War crimes in November 2001. (More on this below.) Where did I dig up this secret information? From the Washington Post and New York Times and other mainstream outlets, where Administration officials – flush with their newfound power and popularity – were at that time boasting openly of "taking the gloves off" and inflicting physical torture on captives, either directly or through proxies in foreign "rendition" centers. Only when the pictures from Abu Ghraib appeared in 2004 – showing in vivid detail exactly what Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld had ordered American personnel to do to their captives – did the "senior government officials" stop supplying spin to the compliant media about their macho forays "into the dark side."

And suddenly, a strange amnesia set in across the political and media establishments. Suddenly no one remembered "senior officials" boasting about torture. Suddenly no one remembered Cheney himself going on national television to announce that U.S. security forces were going to "the dark side, if you will." As a result, it has taken years for the deliberate, systematic, planned and approved use of torture to come to light again, piece by piece – with government officials and media mandarins expressing their great shock at each new revelation.

But here is a vital point that should be stressed again and again: The planned, approved, systematic use of torture against uncharged captives held illegally under the Geneva Conventions – which have the full force of U.S. law – has never been a secret. Never. Never. Any ordinary American citizen, like me, could find out about it, without any special effort, simply by reading beyond the first few paragraphs of routine, mainstream news stories.

It has always been out there – always – for anyone who wanted to know. It is an utter impossibility that the thousands of political operatives and players in Washington – elected officials and their vast cadres of staff, journalists and editors, lobbyists, think tank analysts, appointees to government agencies, and all the others whose professional lifeblood depends on the information relayed by house organs of the Establishment like the Times and Post – did not know what an ordinary man from rural Tennessee knew as early as November 2001. It is simply impossible.

And it is certainly impossible that an intelligent, informed, and ambitious political operative like Barack Obama did not know. And if for some inconceivable reason he did not know what us yokels knew in 2001, then he certainly knows it now. But he pretends that he does not know. He pretends that it is still an open question – "an exercise of judgment" – whether these crimes should even be investigated further, much less prosecuted. He pretends – or even worse, actually believes – that we are not in the grip of "exceptional circumstances," but are apparently just rolling along with business as usual, aside from a few "dumb policies" which he will tinker with and set right.

All indications continue to suggest that those who look to Obama to undo "the terrible damage done over the past eight years," as Bruce Springsteen put it in his public endorsement of Obama last Friday, will be disappointed – especially as they watch Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the other perpetrators of war crimes enjoy their comfortable, lucrative retirements in the years to come.

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And let's not forget: We don't even know the full extent of the gulag. In addition to the multitude of individual ordeals that we still have no inkling of, there are almost certainly more secret prisons that we don't know about – and perhaps secret codicils to the known documents, authorizing even more barbaric tortures. To quote torture lord Rumsfeld himself, there are still many "unknown unknowns" about the Terror War gulag that we are yet to discover.

Thus the crimes reconfirmed and fleshed out by Sands and others are only glimpses of the full, horrific reality. For example, in Sands' extract, he tells of the three categories of torture devised and approved by the White House. "Category III" was the full whack, including waterboarding, the partial-drowning technique long prosecuted by the American military as a particularly heinous form of torture. Sands says that Category III techniques "were to be used for only a very small percentage of detainees" – the most "uncooperative and exceptionally resistant individuals," the so-called "worst of the worst" in the terminology of the torture lords.

But recall that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and other top officials routinely referred to all of the captives in the Guantanamo concentration camp as "the worst of the worst," the most dangerous men on the planet, etc. – prime candidates for the harshest tortures. Yet we now know – and have long known – that hundreds of these captives posed no threat at all to anyone. Many of them had been sold into captivity by bounty hunters or personal enemies, or rounded up in random sweeps, or kidnapped off city streets or from their homes. We also know from the mountains of evidence gathered by some of the Pentagon's own investigations (of "small fry" and "bad apples," offered up as scapegoats for the sins of their leaders), that the worst approved tortures soon spread throughout the Terror War gulag, all the way down to the former torture chamber of Saddam Hussein that George Bush made his very own: Abu Ghraib. There, the highest category of torture was applied to some of the lowliest prisoners, men rounded up in the massive, blind sweeps by American forces, caging thousands upon thousands of innocent people. (At one time, the International Red Cross estimated that between 70-90 percent of the American captives in Iraq were innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever, much less of being "Category III" terrorists.)

You cannot compartmentalize the evil of torture. You cannot tame it, domesticate it, separate it into neat categories. It is a sinister acid that eats through all walls, and spreads throughout any system or organization that practices it. You begin with "light slapping" and loud music, and you end up with waterboarding, beating, and murder. There is no exception in human history to this process.

And there is no avoiding the knowledge that America's leaders "knowingly, consciously broke existing laws" against torture. This is precisely why they went to such enormous lengths to pervert the clear and unambiguous letter and spirit of the laws, devising a ludicrous, self-absolving system of executive tyranny, whereby the president's Justice Department appointees simply declare that whatever the president orders is "legal," even if it conflicts with existing law. Torture, murder ("extrajudicial killing"), aggressive war – all is permitted for the "commander-in-chief," whose imperial immunity extends to every minion carrying out his orders. As we have noted often before, this is a version of the Nazi
führerprinzip translated into the political idiom of modern America.

Again, perhaps Barack Obama believes it is not an "exceptional circumstance" that a U.S. presidential administration openly claims to rule the Republic on the basis of Adolf Hitler's philosophy of governance. Certainly, Obama's deliberate inaction on these issues – no bills to stop funding for the war in Iraq, no bills to launch investigations of the torture system, not even a measure to overturn the Military Commissions Act, which stripped the ancient right of habeas corpus and officially enshrined the führerprinzip in U.S. law – constitutes an implicit accommodation with great and glaring evil. It is hard to see in all of this how he represents what Springsteen called in his endorsement "the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years...a country that's interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit."

A leader truly interested in the collective destiny of his nation would not be "nuancing" questions of torture and war crimes. The pursuit of justice for these atrocities would not be an area for "exercising judgment," or worrying about bad PR from the opposition party. It would instead be a burning passion, driven by the understanding that it is only this pursuit of justice that holds out the slim hope of even beginning to "undo the terrible damage done" by the Bush Regime – and by its bipartisan predecessors in imperial arrogance.

Afterword
How easy was it to see what was happening – and what was coming down the pike? Here's an excerpt from a piece I wrote for the Moscow Times in November 2001:


It won't come with jackboots and book burnings, with mass rallies and fevered harangues. It won't come with "black helicopters" or tanks on the street. It won't come like a storm – but like a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind shifts on an October evening: everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, and a new reality has taken its place.

As in Rome, all the old forms will still be there; legislatures, elections, campaigns – plenty of bread and circuses for the folks. But the "consent of the governed" will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small group of nobles who rule largely for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among this elite, and a degree of free debate will be permitted, within limits; but no one outside the privileged circle will be allowed to govern or influence state policy. Dissidents will be marginalized – usually by "the people" themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by an impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, not thoughtful citizens, and left ignorant of current events by a media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

The rulers will often act in secret; for reasons of "national security," the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine: government by executive fiat, the murder of "enemies" selected by the leader, undeclared war, torture, mass detentions without charge, the looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new "security structures" targeted at the populace. In time, all this will come to seem "normal," as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone.

It will all seem normal..Indeed, the Bush administration is now openly considering the use of torture to compel testimony from suspected terrorists – or anyone designated as a suspected terrorist, Slate.com reports. True, a few girlie-men are still fretting about "constitutional rights," but the clever dicks in the Oval Office have that one sussed: recalitrant prisoners can always be exported to friendly regimes, like Egypt or Kenya, where they don't bother with such prissy concerns. Information "extracted" there can then be used in U.S. trials.

Wouldn't evidence acquired by such heinous and unconstitutional methods be thrown out by the courts? Ordinarily, yes – under the old Republic. But in America's new weather, the judiciary will no doubt "give heightened deference to the judgements of the political branches with respect to matters of national security," [as former special prosecutor Kenneth Starr predicts]. And if all else fails, a handy executive order can always "reinterpret" the Constitution to accommodate the needs of "national security."

Normal.... Armed with the sweeping new powers of the "USA Patriot Act" passed late last month, the Bush administration is acting to "shift the primary mission of the FBI from solving crimes to gathering domestic intelligence," the Washington Post reports. In other words, the feds will move from protecting the people to spying on them. The CIA has also been given authority to take part in domestic surveillance and investigations for the first time....

It won't come like a storm. It will all seem normal. Like a break in the weather, a shift in the wind.

Yes, all normal, business as usual. No "exceptional circumstances" here. 

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Carleton Bryant said:

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The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9

Chris, your 2001 writing on the subject is staggering in its accuracy and prediction. Looking at the exponentially decaying political behavior in the US today, I doubt even the most dedicated atheist would try to mock God's Word through Jeremiah in this instance.

Given that we now have fully become the godless reprobates that we unarguably are, expect things to only get worse. We want no God to rule over us and that is precisely what we are getting. God is letting us have the godless society we so desperately want, and so richly deserve.

Excellent essay, Chris.
April 19, 2008

Bruce F said:

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Thanks Chris.
This was an awful kind of beautiful.

Nice to have you back.
April 20, 2008 | url

Sheila S Hamlett Waller said:

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Yeah right, it's all the fault of "Atheists" who "mock god's word".

The current junta continuously proclaims its love of jeezus and your invisible sky daddy, starting with the ghoul in chief, who proclaimed a "righteous war against evildoers", who stated gawd told him to "smite the Iraqis". These people are christians, not "godless atheists". They've packed the bureaurocracy with their bahbull thumping ilk, have poisoned the military with their "dominionist" pals, filled the judiciary with the same enemies of democracy, christian fundamentalists, to enable their crimes. We have a quasi-theocracy now, thanks to folks like you who demand "gawd's law" be substituted for our Constitution, that secular document of genius, that held these monsters at bay for over 2 centuries.

Now that your fellow travelers for christ have taken over, you blame Atheists for the result, but I see no Atheists among the criminals, just fanatics who want prayer in schools, "holy war" and Armageddon, and the sociopathic monsters who exploit their insane delusions for their goal of world mastery. I see none of these so-called "gawdly people" weeping for the tortured prisoners, or the murdered Iraqi victims of this monstrous warcrime. I don't hear them screaming over our use of depleted uranium weapons against an innocent people. I hear none of them denouncing any of the atrocities of this depraved gang of thugs, or demanding "in god's name" they be brought to justice. I just see Hagee, and Robertson, and Dobson, men of gawd all, bawling for more blood, more torture, more death, in gawd's name, hoping for a "nukular" solution to the problem of Iran.

And now, you state here, that your loving daddy in heaven is content to let the millions suffer, because "we want no god to rule over us..." Obviously, you too think that voice in you head is god, whispering his displeasure to YOU, just as he once whispered it to the swine in the WH. Which of you do we believe? Or is it just your own latent sadism that whispers to you, rejoicing in the unspeakable agony of "unbelievers" everywhere?

Obviously, whatever it is you worship, is a fiend, no better than the gawd-fearing junta you complain of, a demon who allows torture and murder on a global scale, impervious to the screams of the dying, merely because some people don't "believe". And that is your privilege. Believe whatever superstitions you want, but don't dare blame those who don't share your delusions, and had no say or part in the atrocities sponsored by your co-religionists. They and their myths are huge factors in the destruction of the nation. And that attitude of "death to unbelievers" has enabled the national acceptance of torture as OK, as long as WE do it, to "really bad guys", as Chris so lucidly discusses here.









April 20, 2008

dougie said:

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Obama is just fooling the powers that be to thinking he is cut of the same cloth as our heroes Reagan, Kennedy and Bush
thats my story and i am stickin with it
April 20, 2008

Sheila S Hamlett Waller said:

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I wish I could believe that, dougie, I really do. But forgive this ancient grandma for being too old, and having seen too many horrors for too long, to put on the blinkers now. He's a corporate sheep, in populist sheep clothing, and wouldn't be where he is, if he were not. And,unfortunately for us, he's the only candidate we are going to be "allowed" to vote for against McInsane, the junta's hand-picked, senile, brainless sock puppet, a clone of his gibbering predecessor.
Democracy, it's a beautiful thing.
April 20, 2008

Wendell Bell said:

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We'll see
At this point, I will settle for a cessation of the dark side, and a return to a United States that is professedly and, at least to some degree, in actuality, decent. If the price for that is that GWB is comfortably ensconced in Highland Park and whiles his days away at the Bush Library at SMU (I'm in the Dallas area), rather than enduring endless procedures in the Hague, then so be it.

BO is making a reasoned judgement, like the one Ford did, that bringing justice to the past would, at the same time, be all-consuming in the present--and a pretty good case for that proposition can be made. If he is elected, and, say, Common Article III isn't honored in all cases, and the Army manual isn't applied in all instances, that would be very wrong and I would come to profoundly regret my support.

We shall see. I will concede, in advance, that, with his background (Yale Law, law school prof etc.), I also thought that Bill Clinton would be solid on civil liberties, and I came to be very, very disappointed on that count
April 20, 2008

DeanOR said:

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Democrats have to avoid any appearance of 'partisan bickering' and court the favor of conservative Republicans by giving them everything they and their lobbyists want, so they will then work cooperatively with Democrats for the good of the country. Above all, don't mention torture, civil liberties, human rights, or empire.
We know how well that has worked before.

April 20, 2008

Debbie(aussie) said:

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Wow!
Chris your writing blows the mind. Wish there was no reason for it to be written!
April 20, 2008

Jimmy Montague said:

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Springsteen --
I spent a couple of years in candle-lit rooms, sitting in a small circle of friends, grooving LSD and playing the White Album backwards, trying to decipher the weird poetry of people we thought were geniuses on the fast track to enlightenment because they made such pretty music.

I'm unable to speak for my entire generation, but I had for long been done with that nonsense when Springsteen (who was still a kid and still chasing dope dreams) cut his first album. Parts of that record were pretty good as I recall. It looked as if Bruce might make something of himself, and eventually he did. Tramps like Bruce being born to run, he ran himself nearly to death before he reinvented himself as "The Boss" and started making records entirely filled with really good music.

Today Springsteen is a legend, widely hailed as a musical genius. I won't argue with that verdict -- but I will argue that musical genius doesn't necessarily drive anyone to a deep understanding of things like politics, economics, law, and diplomacy. Neil Young, for example, admits that he once voted for Ronald Reagan. Bruce Springsteen will get my respect if, ten years from now, he can show as honest as Neil Young and admit that he once thought Barack Obama was a good idea.

It may help Bruce through the ordeal if somebody would send him a copy of Peter Brown's book on the Beatles. . . .
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Dave of Maryland said:

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Who replaces Cheney?
It was a nice rant & made us all feel good, but Obama is a side-show.

We're going to elect Grandpa McCain. The presidential campaign proper hasn't even started yet & that's already clear. Popular sentiment reinforced by the usual vote-rigging. Immediately upon election, McCain, who clearly has no ability for the job & probably less interest, will be happily shoved aside by his vice president. Just as Cheney shoved aside Bush.

So who will that VP be? Will it be someone from Cheney's office? Someone from Rummy's? Will it be a Congressional hack? Could it be The Hammer? Will Karl Rove pick the VP, or will Cheney?

What a slick system this is! Let vain, egotistical presidential wanna-bes exhaust themselves, spend a billion bucks apiece, only to get out-hustled at the last minute by the Republican VP & a corrupt electoral system. A VP who coasts effortlessly into office.

McCain may be an even better foil that GW Bush. McCain might actually pass away from natural causes during his term, elevating the VP to legitimate command.

Four years of campaigning and we still do not know the name of our next leader. But we can speculate. Knowing both the requirements for the job, and the pool of men available, who do you think Cheney's successor will be?

All hail the Vice President of the United States!
April 20, 2008

Evan Rhood said:

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Obama is a lawn jockey, an oreo, an Uncle Tom. He is a charlatan. Glen Ford over at Black Agenda Report has Obama's number.

The only reason to choose Obama is wrongheaded partisanship in a fettered mindset that believes several things:

1) We can only choose those candidates that the mainstream infotainment media anoint as The Chosen

2) There is a meaningful difference between Democrat and Republican at the Federal level -- and especially in the Senate and Presidential races

3) The act of voting is not corrupted by the Electoral College

4) The act of voting is not corrupted by external chicanery (i.e. electronic vote machine hacking, polling place goon squads for intimidation, ballot manipulation)

5) The result of the popular vote will not be discarded by the US Supreme Court (see Bush v Gore)

6) The voting process has not been corrupted by money to the point where no candidate cares about individual citizens who struggle below the upper and upper middle economic classes

7) The fact that Barack Obama is funded by people who support the Bush-Cheney agenda is irrelevant

8) The fact that Barack Obama is advised by people who support the Bush-Cheney agenda is irrelevant

9) Barack Obama's pledge to "do whatever it takes" to protect Israel is irrelevant and/or is good diplomacy

Since all 9 points are wrong in their perspective and conclusion, there is no reason to vote for Barack Obama.

But of course, foolish NPR/PBS worshiping soi-dissant "liberals" and "progressives" think it's a huge accomplishment to have a (fake) Black man running for President. So they'll vote for him, ensuring that the current foreign and domestic policies continue uninterrupted -- albeit with a shiny, happy facade of fake-humanism.
April 20, 2008

Mark Welkie said:

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Welcome back, Chris!
April 20, 2008

BobS. said:

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The question to Obama needs to be re-phrased.
"Senator Obama, you're on the record as saying that impeachment needs to be reserved for 'exceptional circumstances'. Given that this administration has started a war of aggression (the 'supreme international crime' according to the American prosecutor at Nuremburg) based on lies to the American people, the US Congress, and the United Nations, and given that this administration has implemented a widespread program of systematic torture of people who are only suspected of guilt (which the President has admitted was done with his full knowledge and blessing) and whose innocence has been corroborated by their subsequent release, could you please give us two or three examples of the 'exceptional circumstances' that in your opinion are deserving of impeachment?
April 20, 2008

arthurdecco said:

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new boss same as the old boss
Powerful commentary, Mr. Floyd, & as always, prescient.

On a related note, I read: http://www.chris-floyd.com/plo...es_Archer/

yesterday online. There are some disturbing parallels between then and now, don't you think?
April 20, 2008

Debbie(aussie) said:

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Evan, If Obama appears to be the best available but he isn't, what do US voters do, that might accomplish something?
April 20, 2008

Joe Bridges said:

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Evan writes, "Since all 9 points are wrong in their perspective and conclusion, there is no reason to vote for Barack Obama."

This reasoning would apply to ANY Democrat or Republican. It has nothing to do with Obama's racial authenticity, which is obviously important to Evan. The issue of authenticity is indeed being debated in the Black Agenda Report, but nobody there is fouling the site with terms like "oreo" and "lawn jockey."
April 20, 2008

Evan Rhood said:

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Joe Bridge,

You are mistaken. The reasoning applies to Obama. It would not apply to "any" Democrat or Republican. If I had meant to apply it that broadly, I would have done so. Besides, Mr Floyd's essay was about Obama. Quit trying to change the subject, Joe.

As to your pretense at offense, you'd be a lot better off if you stopped trying to psychoanalyze people you don't know. My point about Obama's race is another indicator of his fraudulence. He trades on his Blackness while he turns his back on those Black folks who supposedly helped form his views. I suppose you would prefer that we ignore the rebuking of Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

So apparently I've offended your NPR/PBS "liberal" sensitivities. Gee, I am almost sorry about that. I am so near to sorry that I'll tell you another one. Barack Obama is like Al Jolson in blackface, singing "Mammy!" He's pretending at Blackness to make a buck.

I guess fraudulence means nothing to you.

I mentioned the problems with Obama because Mr Floyd's essay deals with Obama.

If you think that it matters whether people vote for Obama, Clinton or McCain, then I submit that you are the one who has a fouled perspective and misplaced priorities.

And if it offends you for me to mention RACE when Obama himself is trading on his RACE, then I submit you are trying to obscure things for Obama's benefit. If you want to support Obama, try Daily Kos or Wonkette or Smirking Chimp. You'll find plenty of fellow Obamaphiles over there.
April 20, 2008

Evan Rhood said:

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to Debbie,

If you're in Australia, why are you sticking up for Obama? Either you're faking at being Australian, or you're meddling in our politics.

You want to know what I think, Debbie?

Read this --

http://carcinofun.blogspot.com...stiny.html
April 20, 2008

Donald L. Smith said:

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Well said, Mr. Floyd.
The sad comedy/tragedy of the national election shall parade accross the nation and the world,the usual suspects will congratulate the nation for affirming that "democracy" is strong and healthy.
There may be some issues which are troubling, however, we may rest assured that really smart people are gonna fix it all up and make it better.
Vox populi...
April 20, 2008

Sheila S Hamlett Waller said:

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Since everything we do now has global, disastrous consequences, Debbie and everyone else on the planet has a right question our internal political processes, such as they are, which are utterly confusing to the rest of the world, believe me. But beyond that, her question is devastatingly valid: we have NO ONE to vote for, and are stuck with whatever profiteering shill is put up by the corporatocracy, in rigged elections. She wonders what the hell we, as citizens, can do about this apalling situation, and probably doesn't understand why there isn't rioting in the streets, nationwide.
She gives us more credit than we deserve.
April 21, 2008

Debbie(aussie) said:

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Grandma Jefferson, thanks for sticking up for me :).
Evan, see Grandma Jefferson's comment. I have become a US blog junkie and politics is my interest. I didn't realize I was sticking up for Obama, anyway. Although as a non US citizen, of the three choices he appears to be the best (least worst).
April 21, 2008

Debbie(aussie) said:

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Evan, I read the article you linked too. thanks, very interesting. I did not realise that a choice other that those on the ballot was possible. How bad would things have to get before you could convince enough people to do something like this?
April 21, 2008

Donald L. Smith said:

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How bad would things have to get before you could convince enough people to do something like this?

Lessee now, a trillion zillion dollars dumped in a radioactive land fill, a million dead, (many more millions if we consider Africa and Asia), how bad is that?
Write-in candidates have "funny" ideas and nobody has heard of 'em, stick with a winner, kid.
April 21, 2008

Bilxoi said:

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Global Coalition of Intelligent Consumers. Become a multinational, else we're just a bunch of individual consumers with absolutely no power whatsoever ... other than consuming what's forced upon us rather than a choice.

6 billion individuals, as a coalition of global consumers who are "intelligent," can definitely find a voice and a vote too, beyond what America has become since the multinationals in China, for example, appear to choose for us.

Time to grow up and take the burden off god - do it ourselves and choose to be intelligent about it.
April 21, 2008

David Howard said:

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9/11 and cancer is the key!
google: WTC Cancer Cluster Like Hiroshima
April 21, 2008

ondelette said:

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My letter to Senator Obama
Senator Obama,

I saw your interview with the Philadelphia Daily News, a clip where you were specifically answering questions on an investigation of the crimes of torture and abuse, and revelations of systematization and direction from the White House situation room, with approval by President George W. Bush. Either you don't quite understand the situation, which some commentators find incredible to the point of accusing you immediately of equivocating, or you genuinely don't understand international law and our obligations to it.

The revelations are of torture. It is an international war crime under the Hague Convention of 1907, under the Geneva Conventions of 1949, and under the U.N. Convention Against Torture, Cruel, Inhuman, and Degrading Treatment of 1987. It is against the U.S. Torture Act, and against the U.S. War Crimes Act, by virtue of being a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions. Systematization of torture is a crime against humanity, and under U.S. law the maximum penalty, in cases where deaths have occurred (like the present case) it is a capital offense.

I'm therefore mystified as to why that isn't an 'exceptional circumstance' for which impeachment is called for. I am mystified as to how you could forgo pursuing prosecution on grounds of a perceived partisan witch hunt, or on grounds of not wanting your administration to be consumed. Under the international treaties and statutes mentioned above, it is likewise a crime not to pursue such allegations. It is grounds for investigation by other countries if you attempt not to prosecute torture, and attempt not to give it a full and commensurate punishment.

I'm very worried that a promising candidate with a promising agenda is gearing up to ignore or to break international law in defense of war criminals in the administration in order to avoid confrontation. If you'd rather it did not consume your own administration, then why not begin the impeachment proceedings now, and let them consume the administration that rightly belongs in the consuming fires of hell.

I, for one, will have a lot of trouble voting for a candidate that can't stand four square against a violation of human life and dignity so profound that there do not exist any emergencies or special circumstances under which it should be used. I'm sure you understand. The only lapel pin I have has a red cross, a red crescent, and a red diamond on it, and adherence to what it signifies is a genuine issue with me, not a distraction.


April 21, 2008

chlamor said:

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Will Obama investigate himself?
Then there’s the matter of his actual policy and political record. If Obama is such (as many “progressives” seem to need to believe) an “antiwar” candidate, why has he offered so much substantive policy support to the criminal occupation and the broader imperial “war on terror” of which Bush says O.I.F. is a part? Here are some highlights from a summary of Obama’s U.S. Senate voting record:

“1/26/05: Obama voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State. Rice was largely responsible…for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent victims in unnecessary wars...Roll call 2”

“2/01/05: Obama was part of a unanimous consent agreement not to filibuster the nomination of lawless torturer Alberto Gonzales as chief law enforcement officer of the United States (U.S. Attorney General).”

“2/15/05: Obama voted to confirm Michael Chertoff, a proponent of water-board torture... man behind the round-up of thousands of people of Middle-Eastern descent following 9/11. By Roll call 10.”

“4/21/05: Obama voted to make John ‘Death Squad’ Negroponte the National Intelligence Director. In Central America, John Negroponte was connected to death squads that murdered nuns and children in sizable quantities. He is suspected of instigating death squads while in Iraq, resulting in the current insurgency. Instead of calling for Negroponte's prosecution, Obama rewarded him by making him National Intelligence Director. Roll call 107”

“4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109 ”

“7/01/05: Obama voted for H.R. 2419, termed ‘The Nuclear Bill’ by environmental and peace groups. It provided billions for nuclear weapons activities, including nuclear bunker buster bombs. It contains full funding for Yucca Mountain, a threat to food and water in California, Nevada, Arizona and states across America. Roll call 172 .”

“9/26/05 & 9/28/05: Obama failed and refused to place a hold on the nomination of John Roberts, a supporter of permanent detention of Americans without trial, and of torture and military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees.”

“10/07/05: Obama voted for HR2863, which appropriated $50 billion in new money for war. Roll call 2 .”

“11/15/05: Obama voted for continued war, again. Roll call 326 was the vote on the Defense Authorization Act (S1042) which kept the war and war profiteering alive, restricted the right of habeas corpus and encouraged terrorism. Pursuant to his pattern, Obama voted for this. .”

“12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), Roll call 366, which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater. ”

“5/2/06: Obama voted for money for more war by voting for cloture on HR 4939, the emergency funding to Halliburton, Blackwater and other war profiteers. Roll call 103 .”

“5/4/06: Obama, again, voted to adopt HR4939: emergency funding to war profiteers. Roll call 112 .”


“6/13/06: Obama voted to commend the armed services for a bombing that killed innocent people and children and reportedly resulted in the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi… Michael Berg, whose son was reportedly killed by al-Zarqawi, condemned the attack and expressed sorrow over the innocent people and children killed in the bombing that Obama commended. Roll call 168 .”

“6/15/06: Obama voted for the conference report on HR4939, a bill that gave warmongers more money to continue the killing and massacre of innocent people in Iraq and allows profiteers to collect more money for scamming the people of New Orleans. Roll Call 171 .”

“6/15/06: Obama, again, opposed withdrawal of the troops, by voting to table a motion to table a proposed amendment would have required the withdrawal of US. Armed Forces from Iraq and would have urged the convening of an Iraq summit (S Amdt 4269 to S. Amdt 4265 to S2766) Roll Call 174 ”

“6/22/06: Obama voted against withdrawing the troops by opposing the Kerry Amendment (S. Amdt 4442 to S 2766) to the National Defense Authorization Act. The amendment, which was rejected, would have brought our troops home. Roll Call 181 ”

“6/22/06: Obama voted for cloture (the last effective chance to stop) on the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766), which provided massive amounts of funding to defense contractors to continue the killing in Iraq. Roll Call 183.”

“6/22/06: Obama again voted for continued war by voting to pass the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766) for continued war funding. Roll Call 186 .

9/7/06: Obama voted to give more money to profiteers for more war (H..R. 5631). Roll Call 239 ”

“9/29/06: Obama voted vote for the conference report on more funding for war, HR 5631. Roll Call 261 .”

“11/16/06: Obama voted for nuclear proliferation in voting to pass HR 5682, a bill to exempt the United States-India Nuclear Proliferation Act from requirements of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Roll Call 270 .”

“12/06/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-war Robert M. Gates to be Secretary of Defense. Gates is a supporter of Bush's policies of pre-emptive war and conquest of foreign countries. Roll Call 272 ”

“Obama's voting record in 2007 establishes that he continues to be pro-war. On March 28, 2007 and March 29th, 2007, he voted for cloture and passage of a bill designed to give Bush over $120 billion to continue the occupation for years to come (with a suspendable time table) and inclusive of funding that could be used to launch a war with Iran. Roll calls 117 and 126 ...Obama's record shows a minimum of 20 major pro-war votes…”



In a November 2005 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Obama rejected Rep. John Murtha’s (D-Pa.) call for a rapid redeployment and any notion of a timetable for withdrawal. Obama advocated “a pragmatic solution to the real war we’re facing in Iraq” and made repeated references to the need to “defeat” the “insurgency.” This language meant continuation of the war (Ford and Gamble 2005).

Earlier that same year, Obama shamefully distanced himself from his fellow Senator Dick Durbin’s (D-IL) forthright criticism of U.S. torture practices at Guantanamo (Street 2005; Cockburn 2006).


And he still refuses to foreswear the use of first-strike nuclear weapons against Iran (Gerson 2007). As Kucinich pointed out during last night’s debate, this is what Obama’s comment that “all options are on the table” in regard to Iran really boils down to: the potential first black U.S. President is willing to seriously consider the launching of a thermonuclear attack on that country. Debate participant Mike Gravel (a left former U.S. Senator of Alaska)was thinking of that horrific possibility when said the following about the leading Democratic candidates (Obama included of course) last night: “these people scare me.”


"I believe that U.S. forces are still a part of the solution in Iraq.”
- Barack Obama

Obama voted 5(?) times for USA-PATRIOT ACT's renewal


Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?

"Yes, I would vote to repeal the U.S. Patriot Act, although I would consider replacing that shoddy and dangerous law with a new, carefully crafted proposal that addressed in a much more limited fashion the legitimate needs of law enforcement in combating terrorism (for example, permitting a warrant for the interception of cell phone calls, and not just land-based phones to accommodate changes in technology).

However, on March 2, 2006, U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D - Illinois) voted to re-authorize the Patriot Act

So many myths, obfuscations, political panderings and self-indulgent Paeans to America so little time.

Welcome to the Obama road show. Check reality at the door.
April 21, 2008 | url

johnh said:

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Great article Chris:-) I love reading your stuff. As for Barack Obama, who knows, perhaps you're right and then perhaps he's just biding his time like those who came after the junta in Argentina. He won't bring the Bushcons to trial, but might start us on the road to regaining our democracy. While it'll be someone else's job to exhume the unmarked graves of the present administration's crimes.
April 21, 2008

Joe Bridges said:

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Evan wrote:

"You are mistaken. The reasoning applies to Obama. It would not apply to 'any' Democrat or Republican. If I had meant to apply it that broadly, I would have done so. Besides, Mr Floyd's essay was about Obama. Quit trying to change the subject, Joe."

As written, your reasoning applies to all three current Democratic and Republican candidates; it certainly does not appear specific to Obama. I'd be happy to read a clarification, if you're not too busy guessing that "fraudulence means nothing" to me and that Debbie is "faking at being Australian."

Mr. Floyd's essay was about Obama's refusal to confront questions of torture and state power, not about his blackness. Who's changing the subject?
April 27, 2008

Evan Rhood said:

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Hello Joe Bridges,

Please stop trying to tell me what I meant. You don't know what I meant. You can only tell me what you are trying to change the subject into.

I don't know what your role here is. It appears to be apologist for Obama. If it is something else, please explain your motives. Please play with both hands above the table, Joe. I don't like card sharps and bunko artists. I doubt anyone else here does. So if you have some comments to share, how about you stay close to the topics and stop trying to alter the import of the posts of other people. If you want to clarify what you typed, do so. But don't tell me what I was trying to say. Okay?

The essay was about Obama. My comments were about Obama. Whatever you would like to comment on, feel free. But don't tell me what I meant. You don't know me, you don't know what I meant. Okay?
April 28, 2008

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