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Well, Nobel Was the Inventor of Dynamite, After All PDF Print E-mail
Written by Chris Floyd   
Friday, 09 October 2009 14:09

(UPDATED BELOW)

(UPDATED AGAIN)

Sometimes you run across a story that defies all comment, rational analysis -- even parody. This is one of those times:

In Surprise, Nobel Peace Prize to Obama for Diplomacy (NYT).

To give a peace prize to the commander-in-chief of a war machine now churning its way through the populations of three countries (Iraq/Af-Pak), with innumerable black ops, lightning raids and drone shots on the side .... to a man who even as we speak is deciding just how he wants to kill even more civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan ...  a man who has enthusiastically embraced as "an extraordinary achievement" one of the most heinous and barbaric acts of military aggression since Hitler rolled across the border into Poland ... a man who blusters about leaving "all options on the table," including the use of mass-murdering nuclear weapons, to bully other nations into compliance with American wishes ... to give a peace prize to such a man, while all over the world, there are men and women who have devoted their entire lives to non-violence and reconciliation, many of them suffering imprisonment, torture and ruin for their efforts ... well, like I said, it's beyond words.

But it's good to see that the spirit of arms merchant Alfred Nobel -- purveyor and profiteer of death and destruction -- is being honored so perfectly with today's award. 

UPDATE: Arthur Silber has some choice thoughts on the great honour, with a title that says it all: "Depraved, Obscene Absurdities." Here's an excerpt:

Almost no one will acknowledge the single, fundamental truth about Barack Obama, the truth of greatest and most terrifying consequence:

Barack Obama is a war criminal.

Many facts overwhelmingly and conclusively compel this judgment, and no other. Not because I say so, but because an honest application of the relevant language of international law, as well as of the Nuremberg Principles, necessitates the conclusion.


Silber then points us to some excellent chapter and verse backing up that statement of truth. Later on:

History, facts, unimaginable brutality, torture, widescale murder, bodies ripped apart, guts spilling out of blood-drenched bodies, arms, legs and heads sundered and tossed aside to be gnawed on by starving animals, souls destroyed, never again to experience joy or happiness for even a moment -- all of this is minimized, ignored, denied, even mocked as the perpetrators of this immense evil and those who enable and support them (which is most people) claim that those who identify the truth are "exaggerating." "Oh, don't be such a doomsayer. Don't be so gloomy and dire. It's not that bad!"

These denials are easily known to be lies: an honest observer need only open his eyes, look and see. This is precisely what the great majority of people will never do.


He concludes:

Large-scale denial and avoidance impose terrifying costs. Today's story may simply be absurd, and it undeniably is. The man or woman, or child, whose life and mind are seared beyond recognition in the next minute, and hour, and day, and year, in all the nightmare years to come, is condemned to torment and death by the lies upon which we insist, the lies we refuse to give up or even question.


But read the whole thing, and follow the links. Words may have failed me in this instance; but they have most assuredly not failed Silber.

UPDATE II: The Guardian gives a view from Kabul on Obama's peace prize:

"I don't know how he can get this prize," said Najeeb, a 30-year-old shopkeeper attending a friend's wedding party. "Maybe it's been awarded for all the houses they are bombing, or perhaps it's for all his soldiers that are dying in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Next to him a local staff member of a western NGO called Elyas wondered whether Obama will ever be able to bring peace to Afghanistan. "Obama and his favourite president [Karzai] haven't been able to do anything here. We used to be able to drive to Kunduz and Mazar-i-Sharif [two northern cities considered safe until recently] but now we can't because fighters are coming to the roads and looting people."
Comments (40)add comment

Ragnar B. Johannessen said:

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A terrible, terrible choice!
A terrible, terrible choice! Mr. Obama, the stooge of the global financial elite, has continued where Mr. Bush left off, and he also has intensified the US attacks on Pakistan. On top of this, he is now contemplating an unlawful and completely unwarranted, preemptive attack on Iran. It's hard to think of anyone who less deserves this prize than the monster that is Obama. If the Nobel committee in its unfathomable stupidity thinks that this will stop this glib and smug Frankenstein from faithfully executing the sinister agenda of the global elite, they are badly mistaken. If however the committee did this under orders from the same evil elite, the members of the committee are shockingly corrupt. In any case, the Nobel Peace prize has now been ruined for all time. The damage is irreparable.
 
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Scott Busfield said:

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This Must Be a Hoax
I've tried for several minutes to log on to the Nobel Prize website but can't get through. Obviously the world is as stunned as I am that President Obama has apparently won the Nobel Peace Prize. It can't be true!
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +0

Scott Busfield said:

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It's True (weep)
I finally got through to the Nobel Prize website and confirmed it's true. We've all laughed at the countless beauty contestants who say their dream is for world peace - who was to know that was enough to qualify for the Nobel Peace Prize?
 
October 09, 2009
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jj said:

0
...
Please let this be the latest installment of the Yes Men.
 
October 09, 2009
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Joe said:

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Oy
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one that believes giving the peace prize to Mr. stay the course is beyond ludicrous. Is irony dead? Is there something being added to the water supply to cause mass retardation?

I honestly don't get it. WTF? smilies/cry.gif
 
October 09, 2009
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Aditya said:

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Naturally
From the AP
http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/1...e-prize-3/
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

Of Course! Now I see why Kissinger got one too. Don't worry though, as the article indicates, the award was partially just a jab at ol' Dubya. Plus, by awarding it before he actually made peace or anything, it will spur him to act.
"This is probably an encouragement for him to act. Let's see if he perseveres. Let's give him time to act,"
 
October 09, 2009
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John Puma said:

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Drones
As to Aditya's comment above:

Well, drones are hardly a "standing army" and using them to drop bombs on other people's weddings is a well proven tactic for promoting "fraternity between the nations."
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +1

seeweed said:

John Zientowski
Ah, the Nobel Piece Prize..
We'll take a piece of this country, a piece of that country, etc. Un-freaking-believable. This is way beyond preposterous!
 
October 09, 2009 | url
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Myles said:

0
Good to see the Nobel Peace Prize Committee hasn't lost their sense of humor.
At the tone, please leave your message for the most powerful Man in the World: "Mr. President sir, please call the White House immediately. It would seem that two million dollars have come up missing from our "Seduce and Persuasion Fund", and you're the only one who knows the PIN!"
 
October 09, 2009
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seeweed said:

John Zientowski
Wait a damn minute...
How in the hell is a Nobel Peace Prize winner going to bomb Iran? Ah, Grasshopper...
 
October 09, 2009 | url
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cemmcs said:

0
...

Sometimes you run across a story that defies all comment, rational analysis -- even parody. This is one of those times:

In Surprise, Nobel Peace Prize to Obama for Diplomacy (NYT).


Actually, that about says it all.
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +0

Michael Allen said:

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Sample #1 of Peace Prize winner's resume'
hen there's the matter of his actual policy and political record. If Obama is such (as many "progressives" seem to need to believe) an "antiwar" candidate, why has he offered so much substantive policy support to the criminal occupation and the broader imperial "war on terror" of which Bush says O.I.F. is a part? Here are some highlights from a summary of Obama's U.S. Senate voting record recently sent to me by the Creative Youth News Team (CYNT 2007), a progressive African American advocacy organization:

"1/26/05: Obama voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State. Rice was largely responsible...for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent victims in unnecessary wars...Roll call 2"

"2/01/05: Obama was part of a unanimous consent agreement not to filibuster the nomination of lawless torturer Alberto Gonzales as chief law enforcement officer of the United States (U.S. Attorney General)."

"2/15/05: Obama voted to confirm Michael Chertoff, a proponent of water-board torture... man behind the round-up of thousands of people of Middle-Eastern descent following 9/11. By Roll call 10."

"4/21/05: Obama voted to make John 'Death Squad' Negroponte the National Intelligence Director. In Central America, John Negroponte was connected to death squads that murdered nuns and children in sizable quantities. He is suspected of instigating death squads while in Iraq, resulting in the current insurgency. Instead of calling for Negroponte's prosecution, Obama rewarded him by making him National Intelligence Director. Roll call 107"

"4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109 "

"7/01/05: Obama voted for H.R. 2419, termed 'The Nuclear Bill' by environmental and peace groups. It provided billions for nuclear weapons activities, including nuclear bunker buster bombs. It contains full funding for Yucca Mountain, a threat to food and water in California, Nevada, Arizona and states across America. Roll call 172 ."
 
October 09, 2009
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Michael Allen said:

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Sample #2 of Peace Prize winner's resume'
"9/26/05 & 9/28/05: Obama failed and refused to place a hold on the nomination of John Roberts, a supporter of permanent detention of Americans without trial, and of torture and military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees."

"10/07/05: Obama voted for HR2863, which appropriated $50 billion in new money for war. Roll call 2 ."

"11/15/05: Obama voted for continued war, again. Roll call 326 was the vote on the Defense Authorization Act (S1042) which kept the war and war profiteering alive, restricted the right of habeas corpus and encouraged terrorism. Pursuant to his pattern, Obama voted for this. ."

"12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), Roll call 366, which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater. "

"5/2/06: Obama voted for money for more war by voting for cloture on HR 4939, the emergency funding to Halliburton, Blackwater and other war profiteers. Roll call 103 ."

"5/4/06: Obama, again, voted to adopt HR4939: emergency funding to war profiteers. Roll call 112 ."

"6/13/06: Obama voted to commend the armed services for a bombing that killed innocent people and children and reportedly resulted in the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi... Michael Berg, whose son was reportedly killed by al-Zarqawi, condemned the attack and expressed sorrow over the innocent people and children killed in the bombing that Obama commended. Roll call 168 ."

"6/15/06: Obama voted for the conference report on HR4939, a bill that gave warmongers more money to continue the killing and massacre of innocent people in Iraq and allows profiteers to collect more money for scamming the people of New Orleans. Roll Call 171 ."

"6/15/06: Obama, again, opposed withdrawal of the troops, by voting to table a motion to table a proposed amendment would have required the withdrawal of US. Armed Forces from Iraq and would have urged the convening of an Iraq summit (S Amdt 4269 to S. Amdt 4265 to S2766) Roll Call 174 "

"6/22/06: Obama voted against withdrawing the troops by opposing the Kerry Amendment (S. Amdt 4442 to S 2766) to the National Defense Authorization Act. The amendment, which was rejected, would have brought our troops home. Roll Call 181 "

"6/22/06: Obama voted for cloture (the last effective chance to stop) on the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766), which provided massive amounts of funding to defense contractors to continue the killing in Iraq. Roll Call 183."

"6/22/06: Obama again voted for continued war by voting to pass the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766) for continued war funding. Roll Call 186 .

9/7/06: Obama voted to give more money to profiteers for more war (H..R. 5631). Roll Call 239 "

"9/29/06: Obama voted vote for the conference report on more funding for war, HR 5631. Roll Call 261 ."

"11/16/06: Obama voted for nuclear proliferation in voting to pass HR 5682, a bill to exempt the United States-India Nuclear Proliferation Act from requirements of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Roll Call 270 ."

"12/06/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-war Robert M. Gates to be Secretary of Defense. Gates is a supporter of Bush's policies of pre-emptive war and conquest of foreign countries. Roll Call 272 "

"Obama's voting record in 2007 establishes that he continues to be pro-war. On March 28, 2007 and March 29th, 2007, he voted for cloture and passage of a bill designed to give Bush over $120 billion to continue the occupation for years to come (with a suspendable time table) and inclusive of funding that could be used to launch a war with Iran. Roll calls 117 and 126 ...Obama's record shows a minimum of 20 major pro-war votes..."
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +0

Ovid said:

John Flyger
I knew when I got up this morning that reading this was going to be fun today
Obama himself seemed appropriately embarrassed.
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +1

Paul123 said:

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motivation
The motivation
http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_...nce-2009/


''Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.''


Applause erupts from the isolationcells in Baghram
 
October 09, 2009
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Ajit said:

0
...
So many people thought it was a joke , me among them. But I shouldn't be surprised. Nobel Prize Committee has a long and ignoble history of rewarding super criminals with this prize. Theodore Roosevelt, Kissinger, Rabin, De Clerk, Gore etc. Actually Hitler was also in the running in 1930s. That would have been a fitting tribute. If Hitler received it, may be they might have been embarrassed enough to stop giving them around 1940s.

The people who give out these prizes are mainstream politicians after all.

It is better this Prize is becoming a laughingstock around the world. It is such a bizarre institution. May be one day even they will realize it is a joke and stop giving these silly things.
 
October 09, 2009
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Woody said:

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Hell, he's gonna need the money
He's a one-termer, fer sher. Too much left-over bushevik crapola to dispel, to much damage to undo. He's toast. And his little girls are gonna be expensive, having gotten used to the style of 'royalty.' TO keeping the prize imakes good bidness sense, padding the resume for the eventual speakers' fees, after 2013...
 
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Kathy said:

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Ignoble Nobel Prize
Not particularly surprising that the idiots of the Nobel Prize Committee elected to award this year's Peace Prize to someone like Obama, based on their previous record of selecting candidates who made a big show of being for peace while not actually achieving much of anything, while ignoring the less “sexy” but much nobler individuals who labour quietly behind the scenes and have had a substantial, enduring influence on the lives of people worldwide, fostering peaceful relations between nations and aiding the victims of war and strife. When you consider some of the really worthy candidates this year, the decision seems even more unbelievable! Actually, I had rather expected they would choose someone like Ahmadinejad or someone of his ilk!
 
October 09, 2009
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scott douglas said:

scott douglas
...
Semi-Public statement, 10:30 am Eastern Standard Time: "The Nobel committee couldn't have finished-off it's reputation any faster if it had taken a lighted stick of dynamite and stuck it up it's ass..." No one laughed. No rim shot... No applause. They were all adoring the new Preztledent. At least Chris would have got my joke...
 
October 09, 2009
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Expat said:

0
...
X-XXXX October 9th, 2009 at 7:41 am

If PO increases the war in Afghanistan, does he have to give the Nobel back?

This may be the best prophylactic move that can be made.



Had made the comment elsewhere and got silence for response. Were there too many syllables in the words? or too much of a challenge cognitively? The eventual outcome will expose PO as a mendacious war criminal as Arthur Silber has already pointed out. He cannot continue the war crime of threatening peace and retain this award without dissonance to make heads explode. This well may be the best prophylactic against the attack upon Iran. PO is a one term wonder, a footnote in history.
 
October 09, 2009
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Yankee 30 said:

0
oh dear, a nobel wrench in the works
...and Americans and much of the world wrestle with the metaphysics of symbols.

The facts are blood-stained.

So ask yourself what you really believe,

because only if you believe, is there hope.
 
October 09, 2009
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i on the ball patriot said:

0
Great Choice!
It is a wonderful and laudable choice. The Nobel committee puppets are after all just another group of central banker stooges. This choice serves to deflect the public’s eye from the on going intentionally created currency/credit crisis that has drastically changed the geopolitical landscape and is now decimating high resource consuming western domestic middle class populations through; losses in pensions and 401 Ks’, weakening of unions, reduction of home asset wealth, evaporation of credit, snowballing unemployment, increased crime, etc. And it also serves the very intentional neocon plan to create perpetual conflict in the masses so as to create a two tier ruler and ruled world. Yes its a devisive little gem.

There is a wonderful synergy and rhythm to this world propaganda symphony ...

Bomb Bomb Iran,
Bomb Bomb Iraq,
Weapons of mass destruction,
Will melt your mothers back,

Latvia screams,
Please buy my bonds,
Svedbank cringes,
No one responds,

The music has stopped,
You can only hear the lies,
We need a good deflection,
Give Obama the prize ...

Smash those decoys,
Pound them to the floor,
While another fucking trillion,
Sneaks out the door ...

The symphony is sweet,
It beckons you honey bunch,
But with your mind on the music,
They are stealing your lunch ...

Deception is the strongest political force on the planet.
 
October 09, 2009
Votes: +2

Bill Jones said:

0
The questiuon
Does anyone have any candidates for people, any where in the world, who have killed more people than Obama in the last 9 months?

Inquiring minds want to know who these war criminals are.
 
October 10, 2009
Votes: +6

Ovid said:

John Flyger
...
My money is on Dick Cheney hands down.
 
October 10, 2009
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Grandma Jefferson said:

Sheila Waller
Breaking News: Last Irony Meter on Earth Explodes....
...and now we can't get any of them working again.

But on the plus side, O's failure to land the International Kabuki of the "Brotherhood" of Man Olympics for Chicago and the land of Eternal War provides tiny consolation. Could it be the Olympic Committee wasn't as impressed with Obama's cred as a "Man of Peace" as the bootlickers of Oslo?
 
October 10, 2009
Votes: +2

Paul J said:

0
...
Obama's nomination should be seen, I think, as a desperate self-congratulation by the Western political elite. As they are slowly but surely losing influence and leverage over the rest of the world, they try to reassure themselves in the end things will go their way after all and Obama will be the one who will deliver that. The gap between reality and their beliefs will only get bigger in future, so we're in for much more of this "bizarro" stuff (as Justin Raimondo calls it).
 
October 10, 2009
Votes: +3

Sean O'Neil said:

Sean O'Neil
to Paul J --
Paul, I think there's a good bit of truth in what you said. What I doubt, however, is the "belief" you have assigned to these people you're criticizing. I don't see any "belief" of that sort -- what I see is cold calculation of personal profit, personal gain. I see misanthropic selfishness, a very raw sort of "I got mine, go screw yourself!" self-centeredness.

The time I have spent among people who are from the "leadership class" within America -- multi-generational Ivy League/Ivy feeder prep schooled people -- has taught me that they truly are cold, calculating people who care more about retaining some social advantage and power/wealth privilege than they care about widespread humane treatment of their fellow person. The only tangible "belief" I have seen is a belief in their own superiority, their own destiny as the leaders of this human race, their own infallibility.
 
October 10, 2009
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Paul J said:

0
...
Sean, I'm sure you'll agree that there is a spectrum of types among the servants/operators of empire. I don't doubt your judgement on the people from the US leadership class you've known. But here in Europe certainly (and that's where the Nobel-decision was made) the kind of beliefs I refer to are very widespread among the educated classes. I'm quite convinced the Nobel Prize Committee was completely sincere in its
motivation regarding Obama.

To put this more in general: you want something because it is in your financial or career interest then you rationalize it (you convince yourself that it is just the right thing to do). I think this is the usual case and the ruthless cynic you describe is the exception. Anyway, thanks for your response.
 
October 10, 2009
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Bill Jones said:

0
@Seeweed
"How in the hell is a Nobel Peace Prize winner going to bomb Iran? "

In exactly the same way as if he hadn't won it. If bombing Iran is on the agenda, and do you doubt it? Then Iran Will be bombed.
 
October 10, 2009
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Sean O'Neil said:

Sean O'Neil
...
Paul, I don't understand how that sentiment you're describing is different from what I said. Maybe it's because I've never traveled in Europe nor known any recent transplants here. Are you saying there's a group who actually believe Obama is promoting peace, and that the group is made up of persons who are well-educated and well-informed?

The notion of this being about peace, that's what I'm talking about not understanding. I don't believe there are people who actually believe Obama has earned this with his policies and his demonstrable course of behavior. Maybe if they focused only on his speeches, and not on his use of executive power... but then it seems obvious that they'd not really be well-informed, well-educated, or reality-bound.

Unless they are superior beings --maybe extraterrestrials-- who are bending Obama to their will through some powers the rest of us don't have... or something like that.

........

Bill Jones, I agree completely. This is theatre, not reality. Reality is that Obama receiving this bogus award will not change a thing on his agenda of major points. All it might change is the words he uses in his speeches -- he'll probably have speechwriters play up the award somehow, probably not directly, but it will be heavily implied that the USA is brokering peace with its war efforts, with its domestic police state, with its economic inversion/facilitation of looting.
 
October 10, 2009
Votes: +2

jj said:

0
...
Sean ... unfortunately, over the past 24 hours I've spoken with *lots* of people that believe that Obama has demonstrated an unwavering commitment to peace and deserves this award.

They were all well-educated but none were well-informed.
Our education system was never intended to produce well-informed citizens.
 
October 11, 2009
Votes: +1

Paul J said:

0
...
Sean, what I was describing is how ostensibly well-educated people can deceive themselves into a completely one-sided view on their own activities and on what the nature of the system is. These people are well educated and certainly would call themselves well-informed. What they lack of course is the critical spirit, the will to honestly find out what the facts are and let the chips fall where they may.

As it happens I'm reading Jeff Schmidt's excellent book "Disciplined minds" right now. He lays out how the US education system selects for docility and ideological obedience. The end product is a professional who will stick to his circumscribed technical task, who will not rock the boat politically. Such a professional is well educated but mostly is pretty ignorant when it comes to wider knowlegde about society, politics etc. In fact in my workplace (in the Netherlands)I'm surrounded by PhD's and they practically all fit exactly that profile. So when it comes to this Europe and the US do not even seem to be that different. JJ's excellent comment above points in the same direction. What Schmidt revealingly describes, and very truthfully according to my own experience, is that questioning the system leads to immediate ideological pain in the well-educated professional. First and foremost he is a conformist.

As to those who actually decided to give the prize to Obama, they will of course be much more seasoned is this "special pleading" than the average professional. Their formative years in that respect will be way back in past and confronting them with facts will induce the reaction of inordinate surprise Chris described so well recently. They just don't know what you're talking about.
 
October 11, 2009
Votes: +1

Yankee 30 said:

0
...
Paul J said:

"But here in Europe certainly (and that's where the Nobel-decision was made) the kind of beliefs I refer to are very widespread among the educated classes."

For a while, after the election of BO, I explained this misguided euphoria as just a collective sigh of relief of seeing Georgie boy sent out to pasture. Most of my friends here in Italy are 'of the left', are(were) well-informed, intelligent, and(I thought) disposed to calling a spade a spade. That this aura of Obama persists is a mystery to me. Here 'the left' used to swing a pretty heavy bat. That they have imploded and seemingly traded ideology for a nice cashmere sweater is very disturbing. Even my wife, who is the intellectual of the family, is still cutting Obama lots of slack. Go figure...the power of symbolism?
 
October 11, 2009
Votes: +1

Cynthia said:

0
...
The Obama-Bomber is proof positive that looks can be very deceiving -- at least deceiving enough to fool the Nobel folks!

 
October 11, 2009
Votes: +0

Sean O'Neil said:

0
to Paul
Paul, thanks for that comment. I understand what you're saying. JJ's and yankee 30's comments helped a lot on that score too. My lack of travel to Europe and lack of European friends is a disadvantage in trying to understand the European sentiments toward Obama. The skeptic in me says that any continent which has been ravaged by wars like Europe has, and has suffered totalitarian regimes on such a broad scale, should have plenty of people who see Naked Emperors for what they are. I guess I give them too much credit, and don't allow them the mind-numbed idiocy and/or conformity so commonplace among Americans.

yankee 30's comment here said a whole lot to me:

That they have imploded and seemingly traded ideology for a nice cashmere sweater is very disturbing.
 
October 11, 2009
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GonadtheContrarian said:

0
Well...
Consolation prize:
when the Noebel Committee collectively has to eat crow when Obama, after suitable provocation, of course, attacks Iran. I say in four months.
 
October 11, 2009
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Arthur James said:

0
Peace?
Thanks, Chris Floyd.

I remember this paraphrased Sign a very grieving `
a- Nam`war veteran carried when the Reflecting:`
a- black marble Wall with engraved white names :`
`
I didn't ask for memorials with any names of Dead:`
If the Peace award brings Peace than I'll be happy:`
Peace?
If you look at the black reflecting Wall You See Us:`
I agree. Often the daily chat is incomprehensible!
Peace.
Thanks,
Chris Floyd.
 
October 12, 2009
Votes: +0

windy said:

0
Sean
My lack of travel to Europe and lack of European friends is a disadvantage in trying to understand the European sentiments toward Obama.

Don't feel bad about it, I'm European and I don't understand it either.
 
October 12, 2009
Votes: +0

Shep said:

0
The sheeple have reacted critically, but mildly....
In even so-called liberal sites like Huffington, most posters were giving BO no credit for the "win". Most comments were along the lines that "he hasn't done anything" rather than an enumeration of the heinous acts already created.

Wait until the sheeple finally understand how the elite's bloodlust will ruin their own lives.
 
October 12, 2009
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Jim said:

0
Flummoxed
Obama, A war criminal....that's sublimely ironic on so many levels. I suppose it could have been worse; they could have called him The Prince Of Peace. But then they would know even less about him (as in) "There will be no peace until He comes". We have a real conundrum here, you think mankind can live at peace, when it's never happened and I think Obama doesn't understand America or himself, like most politicians and humans in general, he just wants to be popular even if that means trashing your own country to all the other world leaders. Think about it: his mother was a confused hippie who happened to be attracted to a passing Kenyan who proceeds to abandon his wife and son. He then spends the rest of his life trying to win his father's approval, falls in with radical Marxists who tell him what he wants to hear and who he is. The guy is very charismatic and sincere., problem is he's sincerely wrong. Now he finds himself back tracking and betraying his leftest ideology. In his heart of hearts he probably admires George W Bush now that he (Obama) is the leader of the free world and is finding out that George W Bush despite his flaws was very good at keeping America safe. Obama is keeping many of Bush's policies like The Patriot Act etc. The man is a rank amateur who needs our prayers like no other president in our history has.
 
October 12, 2009
Votes: +1

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